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Dominating Scores, The Arcade's Elite


Nov 9 2007, 05:10 AM (Post #1)
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Here are what I think are the top ten most dominating high-scores in the arcade (yes they are in ranked order):

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10) Asteroids - lilhurt // 59,310

9) Pacman - viral dragon // 152,010

8) Tetris - viral dragon // 223,668

7) Lightning Break - Garlic Junior // 37,807

6) 12many - Jinghao // 416

5) piljard - Singularity // 8

4) Monster Hatch - Singularity (+Odd) // 2,779

3) Curveball - Odd // 35,005

2) Nelinurk - Singularity // 13,649

1) Collapse - Kiro/Brian // 6,666


To come up with these, I weighed the following criteria:
--Score duration (how long it has stood)
--Possible score duration (how long it might stand)
--Closest score (how high the 2nd place score is comparatively)
--Magnitude (projected difficulty)

==UPDATED as of 3/16/09==

Asteroids has made the top ten based on score duration alone...so maybe that will motivate one of you to BEAT IT. A couple other scores have moved up the list, and all have been updated/removed/added based on the same criteria as before. Monster Hatch and piljard are also technically tied, but the newer addition must be placed lower. Sing's new Nelinurk score would be #1, but for some reason I no longer feel anything is unbeatable in that game. Collapse is still the most impressive score.

You may argue your points on certain games, but I have an answer for most of them. I eliminated most of them by total times played by all the members, and others (like Hexxagon) by replication or possible cheating. Many of the games in the arcade haven't been played very much, and any real effort by a member could earn him/her a high-score.

Anway....Enjoy. sbiggrin.gif

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Nov 11 2007, 02:33 AM (Post #16)
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Speaking of Maeda path, why isn't that on the 10? You know how ridiculous that score is?
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Nov 11 2007, 04:19 AM (Post #17)
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For the same reasons as Breakout and Reaktor. o_o It's just pure duration throughout the game...whoever has the most patience gets the high score. Plus people can adjust their mouse sensitivity...<_<. Not that I'm making an accusation, there are just ways to make it a lot easier.
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Nov 11 2007, 04:33 AM (Post #18)
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That and you can cheat by taking the cursor off the left of the screen.
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Mar 14 2009, 06:00 PM (Post #19)
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Looks like this needs a bit of an update, eh?
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Mar 14 2009, 07:52 PM (Post #20)
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QUOTE (Odd @ Nov 8 2007, 09:10 PM)
I'm bored...here are what I think are the top ten most dominating high-scores in the arcade (yes they are in ranked order):
To come up with these, I weighed the following criteria:
--Score duration (how long it has stood)
--Possible score duration (how long it might stand)
--Closest score (how high the 2nd place score is comparatively)
--Magnitude (projected difficulty)

For instance, my Simon score hasn't been standing long, and the second place score is only two lower, but the difficultly of reaching that level can be compared to higher-ranked scores (like GJ's Nelinurk score). If you don't believe me, go try and beat me without cheating, stongue.gif.

In comparison, the Monster Hatch high-score isn't very difficult to attain (just gotta try several times), but it is next to impossible to beat the score, for the physical maximum for the game is either 2,779 or 2,780.

You may argue your points on other games, but I have an answer for most of them. I eliminated most of them by total times played by all the members, and others (like Hexxagon) by replication or possible cheating. Many of the games in the arcade haven't been played very much, and any real effort by a member could earn him/her a high-score.

Anway....Enjoy. sbiggrin.gif sbiggrin.gif
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WTF, where the hell am I in 12 many? Do update stongue.gif
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Mar 15 2009, 04:51 PM (Post #21)
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Curveball is so annoying. I hate that score.

I think we should have some weighted system to determine who is the king of the arcade ssmile.gif but for now, I like this list (even if I never thought my Lightning Break score was that good a score. Damn that my NeliNurk should get beaten the day it is claimed #1!!!)
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Mar 15 2009, 05:40 PM (Post #22)
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QUOTE (Garlic Junior @ Mar 15 2009, 11:51 AM)
I think we should have some weighted system to determine who is the king of the arcade ssmile.gif
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Yes, I think we should. Even after the viral dragon incident, I still have the most golds, but some games are easier than others. Someone should make a thread where we can discuss what kind of formula to go with. I'm thinking some sort of weighting based on how much higher a score is than the next highest, and how long the top score has been held.
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Mar 15 2009, 06:29 PM (Post #23)
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And then again we can have the weighted average of the number of SDs you are above the mean for each game you are in stongue.gif

That's a lot of computations for my server, though...
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Mar 15 2009, 07:46 PM (Post #24)
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I don't think we should. The scores in general are not normally distributed, but rather, each has its own distribution. I think we should do it manually.

For example, in curveball (excluding viral dragon), most scores seem to approach the 35,000 mark, but most of the good ones are still in the low 30,000s, as opposed to say Pacman, where it's high 30, low 40 thousands, then 80 thousand, then one hundred thousand. But ultimately, the Pacman score isn't that much better than the curveball score.

I haven't thought of a better method yet, but I'll take the time to do so later, if necessary.

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Mar 16 2009, 03:53 PM (Post #25)
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I tried to come up with a simple ranking system by averaging everyone's top 5 finishes in games, and then trying to rank the difficulty OF the game...but it got stalled out because I knew nobody would agree on my difficulty rankings. stongue.gif

Otherwise it wouldn't be that hard....but let me update this page now. I'll also edit this one when I'm done (hells yeah I beat Curveball, XD). Before I update though, I'm going to go through and cut most of viral's scores. It's aggrivating checking the scores and seeing his cheating face dominating all of the lists.
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Mar 16 2009, 03:59 PM (Post #26)
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You know he didn't cheat on all of those games, right? xP

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Mar 16 2009, 04:10 PM (Post #27)
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QUOTE (Odd @ Mar 16 2009, 07:53 AM)
I tried to come up with a simple ranking system by averaging everyone's top 5 finishes in games, and then trying to rank the difficulty OF the game...but it got stalled out because I knew nobody would agree on my difficulty rankings. stongue.gif

Otherwise it wouldn't be that hard....but let me update this page now. I'll also edit this one when I'm done (hells yeah I beat Curveball, XD). Before I update though, I'm going to go through and cut most of viral's scores. It's aggrivating checking the scores and seeing his cheating face dominating all of the lists.
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QUOTE (Icey @ Mar 16 2009, 07:59 AM)
You know he didn't cheat on all of those games, right?  xP
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That's why Odd said "most", not "all".
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Mar 16 2009, 04:18 PM (Post #28)
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Overall I only cut 3 of his top scores after reviewing the lists. The topic has been updated as follows:

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10) Asteroids - lilhurt // 59,310

9) Pacman - viral dragon // 152,010

8) Tetris - viral dragon // 223,668

7) Lightning Break - Garlic Junior // 37,807

6) 12many - Jinghao // 416

5) piljard - Singularity // 8

4) Monster Hatch - Singularity (+Odd) // 2,779

3) Curveball - Odd // 35,005

2) Nelinurk - Singularity // 13,649

1) Collapse - Kiro/Brian // 6,666


You can see my newest comments in the opening post. stongue.gif
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Mar 16 2009, 04:26 PM (Post #29)
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QUOTE (Icey @ Mar 16 2009, 10:59 AM)
You know he didn't cheat on all of those games, right?  xP
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I'm sure he did get some of them legitimately, but few of us will agree on that for some of them.

From what I saw, Odd only got rid of 12 Many, curveball and prior to that, the one he admitted to cheating on, Breakout. The other ones aren't so far ahead that I'd consider them possible without cheating. I did tell him to post a video of himself playing curveball if he wants to keep the score. If he can break 40,000 by playing by the rules (i.e., no slowing down the processor, or anything cheap like that), then I'd encourage Odd to reinstate his score.

You must see why we don't trust him on the games in question though. If someone comes and beats more than 1/4 of the scores in the arcade in the span of a day or so, with some scores that are seemingly unreachable (curveball being the biggest culprit), AND it is discovered conclusively that at least one score was achieved by intercepting a PHP variable, then it's only reasonable to suspect that he has cheated more than once.

But again, it appears only the extreme cases have been removed for now. If he wants to post a video, and it looks like he played fairly, he can get his scores back (if one of the admins agrees to that).
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Mar 16 2009, 04:28 PM (Post #30)
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QUOTE (Odd @ Mar 16 2009, 11:18 AM)
Overall I only cut 3 of his top scores after reviewing the lists. The topic has been updated as follows:
You can see my newest comments in the opening post. stongue.gif
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Ah, that'll make Brian happy.

I might work on collapse next.
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