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Aug 28 2009, 10:43 PM (Post #1)
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Internet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.

They're not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft of S.773 (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.


http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html

A nice, vague, and strange bill—kind of like Obama's campaign slogan, right?

There, I said it—but on topic, this is disturbing. Talk about privacy violation
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Aug 28 2009, 10:57 PM (Post #2)
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What inspired this?
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Aug 29 2009, 04:17 AM (Post #3)
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I heard some sound bites about this and I'm appalled. I'm almost speechless, but you know I can't stay quiet. This would be, simply, fascist and unacceptable. I, personally, would call congress every day and complain until something happened, and if nothing happened, I would start protesting.
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Aug 29 2009, 06:20 AM (Post #4)
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QUOTE (Uno @ Aug 28 2009, 11:17 PM)
...fascist and unacceptable. I, personally, would call congress every day and complain until something happened, and if nothing happened, I would start protesting.
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Just another tick in the fascist belt. Another reason for firm protest to add to the long list.
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Aug 29 2009, 12:08 PM (Post #5)
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I don't get it. What's the big deal?
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Aug 29 2009, 02:40 PM (Post #6)
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Finally something good comes out of the white house.

Hey Obama wants to be the greatest president ever right? This is just him topping ol' GW.
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Aug 29 2009, 05:44 PM (Post #7)
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QUOTE (Heartless Krab @ Aug 29 2009, 07:08 AM)
I don't get it. What's the big deal?
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It's kind of like "mental health examinations" to qualify for gun ownership. It's at the total discretion of a bureaucrat in the executive branch what qualifies as a "cybersecurity emergency."

They've already asked citizens to turn over other citizens who spread "misinformation about health care reform" at flag@whitehouse.gov (now defunct)...already labeled pro-Constitution citizens as right-wing terrorists...it's obvious politics will interfere in executive policy, whether it be in the realm of vocal dissent or matters of "security."
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Aug 29 2009, 06:44 PM (Post #8)
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QUOTE (2ki^4-e^(pi*i) @ Aug 29 2009, 07:40 AM)
Finally something good comes out of the white house.

Hey Obama wants to be the greatest president ever right? This is just him topping ol' GW.
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The Patriot Act has moved to the interwebz
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Aug 29 2009, 09:01 PM (Post #9)
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The Founders thought of Government as a necissary evil, not the national police. Government has to happen, but it should be heavily regulated. You know, the way the Fed regulates the free market?
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Aug 30 2009, 01:03 AM (Post #10)
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QUOTE (Uno @ Aug 29 2009, 01:01 PM)
The Founders thought of Government as a necissary evil, not the national police. Government has to happen, but it should be heavily regulated. You know, the way the Fed regulates the free market?
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Depends on what you consider "evil" and "necessary", or even what you consider to be the duties of the police.

Government is self-regulating. The Fed doesn't "regulate" the market. It directs it one way or another. Its goals are to moderate inflation and economic activity.
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Aug 30 2009, 03:25 AM (Post #11)
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I saw this the other day. I'm getting tired of it all, I just want them to go ahead and sign all our lives over for us.
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Aug 30 2009, 05:26 AM (Post #12)
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QUOTE (Jinghao @ Aug 29 2009, 08:03 PM)
Depends on what you consider "evil" and "necessary", or even what you consider to be the duties of the police.

Government is self-regulating. The Fed doesn't "regulate" the market. It directs it one way or another. Its goals are to moderate inflation and economic activity.
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Self-regulating? Are you serious? Corrupt officials have been usurping power they shouldn't ever possess for years. That notion is simply poppycock.

Changing the direction of the market in and of itself is regulation. But of course, promoting high-risk loans and bailing out entire industries isn't regulation. Of course not.

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Aug 30 2009, 05:32 AM (Post #13)
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QUOTE (Uno @ Aug 29 2009, 10:26 PM)
Self-regulating? Are you serious? Corrupt officials have been usurping power they shouldn't ever possess for years. That notion is simply poppycock.

Changing the direction of the market in and of itself is regulation. But of course, promoting high-risk loans and bailing out entire industries isn't regulation. Of course not.
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The Fed did not give the bail outs though.
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Aug 30 2009, 05:36 AM (Post #14)
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They endorsed them firmly, though. Also, the Fed is printing money like Russia. Overall, the Federal Government as a whole is out of control and must be reigned in.
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Aug 30 2009, 05:58 AM (Post #15)
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QUOTE (Uno @ Aug 29 2009, 10:36 PM)
They endorsed them firmly, though. Also, the Fed is printing money like Russia. Overall, the Federal Government as a whole is out of control and must be reigned in.
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Ever read Keynes?
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