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Jun 7 2010, 07:53 PM (Post #1)
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Just released today. Among the features:

Better resolution
Voice Dialing and chat over WiFi
iMovie for iPhone ($5)
iAds

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Jun 8 2010, 02:13 AM (Post #2)
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The forward-facing camera with LED flash seems to make a lot of people happy, too.

It does its job—improving over the previous version, and entering the market at just the right time, as Apple is cruising. My feeling is they'll sell about an even distribution of the now-marked-down 3G and 3GS, as well as the 4.
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Jun 8 2010, 06:04 AM (Post #3)
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Pretty expensive, but now that I have a 3gs I see the usefulness of one.
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Jun 8 2010, 07:56 AM (Post #4)
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QUOTE (Jinghao @ Jun 7 2010, 11:04 PM)
Pretty expensive, but now that I have a 3gs I see the usefulness of one.
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Facebook gave you one? lol
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Jun 9 2010, 03:33 AM (Post #5)
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QUOTE (HAHAHA @ Jun 7 2010, 11:56 PM)
Facebook gave you one?  lol
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The 3gs is nice ssmile.gif It, uh, lets me check my email and do other mission-critical work <_<
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Jun 9 2010, 04:17 AM (Post #6)
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I'd get it for Google Maps.
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Jun 10 2010, 05:16 AM (Post #7)
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The thing I absolutely hate is Apple's (antitrust law-violating) decision to tie the iphone to AT&T, and the shitty reception the iphone has on that. My non-iphone phone never gets calls dropped (it's also on ATT network), but my iphone calls get dropped very frequently. Not only that, but the 3g capability is basically useless for browsing and anything that involves the web, like meebo.
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Jun 11 2010, 07:53 AM (Post #8)
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I am done with AT&T for the reason that the network is diluted with iPhone users and bogging up data. Sprint/Verizon/T-Mobile, here I come!
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Jun 12 2010, 12:41 AM (Post #9)
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QUOTE (Jinghao @ Jun 10 2010, 12:16 AM)
Apple's (antitrust law-violating) decision to tie the iphone to AT&T
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"antitrust law-violating"?
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Jun 12 2010, 03:31 AM (Post #10)
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QUOTE (Jermajesty Jodi Gajadar @ Jun 11 2010, 04:41 PM)
"antitrust law-violating"?
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The property of violating antitrust laws?

Actually if you look at Reuters, the government is now on Apple's tail.
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Jun 12 2010, 07:45 AM (Post #11)
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But what's anti-trust violating about that? Why do they have to open-source their product, so to speak? Sure, consumers can have choices, but so can corporations. It would be like requiring someone who developed a popular video game or software application to make it usable across all platforms, else claiming it's anti-trust violating. If one doesn't like it, one doesn't have to buy an Apple product. There are other choices—and plenty.
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QUOTE (Jermajesty Jodi Gajadar @ Jun 11 2010, 11:45 PM)
But what's anti-trust violating about that? Why do they have to open-source their product, so to speak? Sure, consumers can have choices, but so can corporations. It would be like requiring someone who developed a popular video game or software application to make it usable across all platforms, else claiming it's anti-trust violating. If one doesn't like it, one doesn't have to buy an Apple product. There are other choices—and plenty.
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I didn't say they had to open-source their product. I said nothing about source code. My complaint is their exclusive agreement to tie their phones to the ATT network. That's even worse than Windows having IE installed by default. It's like Windows ONLY having IE and allowing IE, and if you want to install another browser, too bad.
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QUOTE (Jinghao @ Jun 12 2010, 10:57 AM)
I didn't say they had to open-source their product. I said nothing about source code. My complaint is their exclusive agreement to tie their phones to the ATT network. That's even worse than Windows having IE installed by default. It's like Windows ONLY having IE and allowing IE, and if you want to install another browser, too bad.
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The open source reference was a comparison.

But if Windows did what, it certainly wouldn't violate antitrust laws.

For the most part, when you buy *any* phone from an outlet, you can only use it on a particular network. For one, there are specific logistical questions involved. But the question is a legal one...they have every right to allow their products to work only with a certain carrier.
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Jul 16 2010, 09:35 PM (Post #14)
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So, they had the whole controversy about the antenna problem. There's still a lot to wade through, as far as credibility, reporters, and of course, the Jobs press conference today. But I read something interesting earlier (I think at PC World), about the attitude of people, particularly spiteful cynics, that when a company gets successful (like Google or Apple), the first instinct is to tear it down and gut it out...often that requires finding a very minor, narrow problem and exaggerating it. What do you all think?
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It's true that as companies (or even people) become larger and more prominent, they need to be more conscious of the image they project because they're more vulnerable to people's general dislike of powerful things. Apple is flouting its arrogance as if it's still a small company and nobody cared—but they're the largest tech company now so they should be extra careful.

Their entire business relies on their brand image. Should they damage it, their entire house will come apart.
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