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Dec 31 2010, 03:08 AM (Post #1)
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A few questions and statements here that I want to start off with for this discussion...

Is there privacy in this world? Are we entitled to it?

If yes, why so? Are companies such as Facebook obligated to give us privacy in on our own accounts like we saw earlier in 2010, or do we opt out because we use the service?

If no, why not? How important is privacy?
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Dec 31 2010, 05:08 AM (Post #2)
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Yes, we opt out because we use the service. Facebook is not a government entitlement, and neither is Google for that matter. We choose to use them, and they choose to cash in, compromising our 'privacy' in the process.

That being said, we must fundamentally question the role of police, surveillance, etc...if we don't, they will push the limits of technology as far and as wide as they can.

A great recent example of the government trampling our privacy is the TSA mess. Another, of course, is warrantless wiretapping (which includes emails and the like). We have a right to be protected from government intrusion; we don't have a right to back out of contracts we make with private entities who we choose to do business with. People need to start taking sign-up agreements more seriously before they complain that Google saves their searches or Facebook lets people/advertisers see our profiles. If one party breaks those contracts, that's one thing. But in most cases, it's quite clear what we are getting ourselves into.
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Dec 31 2010, 05:39 PM (Post #3)
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QUOTE (Jodi Gajadar @ Dec 30 2010, 09:08 PM)
Yes, we opt out because we use the service. Facebook is not a government entitlement, and neither is Google for that matter. We choose to use them, and they choose to cash in, compromising our 'privacy' in the process.

That being said, we must fundamentally question the role of police, surveillance, etc...if we don't, they will push the limits of technology as far and as wide as they can.

A great recent example of the government trampling our privacy is the TSA mess. Another, of course, is warrantless wiretapping (which includes emails and the like). We have a right to be protected from government intrusion; we don't have a right to back out of contracts we make with private entities who we choose to do business with. People need to start taking sign-up agreements more seriously before they complain that Google saves their searches or Facebook lets people/advertisers see our profiles. If one party breaks those contracts, that's one thing. But in most cases, it's quite clear what we are getting ourselves into.
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Basically agreed. The only thing I would note is that in addition to choosing not to use the service (to avoid the privacy issues), people have other options like changing their privacy settings.

At least at Facebook, the settings are extremely granular (In fact, we changed it to be less granular because the complaint is it's too 'confusing'). You can have whatever privacy settings suit you best. For social networks like Facebook, you don't want the "maximum" privacy because that's like "I don't want my friends to know anything about me" and is antithetical to the whole point of social networks. Similarly, Google tracks you to improve their search results (and customize it for you), and also give you more relevant ads.

I see the tracking technology on the web to be generally a good thing, as long as you can always opt out. Only those who were too stupid to understand privacy settings were pissed off at Facebook for "privacy" issues.
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