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Apr 15 2004, 08:38 PM (Post #1)
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The History of Origin XT Network:

Preamble:
This took me almost an hour to type up, so hold on guys! This is for anyone wishing to know anything about Origin's backgrounds... and willing to read through pages of information.

The Beginning...
Origin RPG Forums started on July 2002 by me, Jinghao Yan (GRAND) - Because I am member number 1, it is logical for my registration date to be the "Date of Installation". The forum started out as just an extention of the main site (Called Grand DBZ at the moment - you may wonder where I got the name GRAND swink.gif ) with the free, opensource script phpBB. When it began, it had no specific purpose - not to get members, not to start a community, none of the obvious. It started as a substitute for my guestbook, which I could not get to work at the time (The G.Guest 1.0 my first version, believe it or not). But sadly, the server went down for two months - during the supposedly "most active" time of the year - Summer.

The Recovery...
When the server finally recovered after two months of downtime, our main site never became popular the way it was. Just for comparison, before the downtime, the main site got over 2000 unique visitors everyday. After the downtime, it never recovered to any more than 500 unique visitors everyday - and that was WITH advertising. And now, without advertising, Origin (Forums alone) reaches 100 unique visitors everyday. Not too bad considering how much downtime we have, and the fact that we never advertise anymore.

Even after the two months of downtime, the server still crashed very often. At least one or two short crashes a week (few minutes to a few hours) and sometimes even a few days. So the uptime, I estimate, is no more than 80% of the time - Not including the downtime during the summer of 2002.

The Move to vBulletin...
A few days after the recovery, I "discovered" a new forum script - vBulletin. (Hey, making the site/forum was the only reason I stayed online) I got one from one of our affiliates (Not knowing it wasn't free) and attempted to install it. The installation was a hassle, and the end result was horrendous. Being the first forum I ever gone on, and the first forum I EVER "became" admin at, I had no idea what to do.

Entrance of the Co-Founder...
Then Geno (Now known as Xeno, the fourth member of the forums) emailed me concerning the forums. He informed me that he could not post or do anything on the forums. I wasn't really obligated to do anything with the forums, nor did I know how to do anything with the forums, so I replied telling him that I did not know how to turn posting on. But he kept insisting that I do, so I finally logged into the controls that haunted me for so long. After looking in the vBulletin controls for quite some time, I finally found the switch to turn on posting. This was the reason why he is considered "Co - Founder" - Without his insistance, I would have never "fixed" the forums.

Now that Geno became active (3 posts a day for half a week was VERY active considering the size of the forums at 10 posts...) I found more reason to work on the forums. First thing I did, was to make SSJ4Gohan (Info writer for the main site, at the time) mod powers. We posted, but not very much raising only 100 posts the first months after recovery. Then HavenMaster (Haven - one of our affiliates) came and became a moderator as well. This is when we entered the "posting feuds" where Gohan and Haven posted in strings increasing their posts quite a bit. (I'm always the last one to enter since my time is 3 hours later than Haven and Gohan's) At the end of the second month, we reached around 300 posts.

Entrance of my Friend, "Starlight Chaos"...
This is when "Starlight Chaos" (Aevynn, at the time, a friend of mine who just moved away) came into the scene. Shortly after the entrance of Aevynn (I'll just use this name because it's shorter), MajinVegeta (Leviat, now) arrived on Origin. He became mod in only a short while (Hmm, I wonder why stongue.gif), and has been that way for most of his time on Origin. And I believe, at around the same time as the arrival of Leviat, Gotenks (Real name is Gabe, but is now known as Kazin - not active anymore) entered the scene. He became a staff member instantly for Origin (Current name). Soon after the arrival of all these members, SSJ4_Vegeta (Haha, here comes Kugjen) entered the scene as well. When he entered, he was a mass spammer (No offence bro), but he slowly got better (Took him a year though). At this time of the life of Origin, Geno was "mysteriously" gone.

Beginning of Appearance...
Just a few weeks after the appearance of these "memorable members", who are still at least somewhat active on Origin (Except Kazin/Gabe/Gotenks), Trunks (Now known as Nesticles. He isn't active at the moment, but he sure was when he arrived on the scene.) He was a fan of our main site, and talked to me on MSN. This is where I showed him the forums where he became mod at. (See? Origin was bloated with mods at one time - of course, relative to the active members) Nesticles then invited Kiro, who is still active to this present day, to the forums. This is the time where I moved to a different city, leaving Gotenks (Kazin, Gabe, whatever) Origin. (Haha Haven, I remember you being jealous of him haha!)

Fusion...
This is the point in time where I decided to "fuse" forums with Aevynn. It wasn't necessarily the best choice, because his forums were empty with no posts except his own, no other members, nothing special. Of course, at first members were not very approving of this decision. They thought that it would be wrong for the admin powers to be granted to Aevynn (I know him in real life, so you might guess why). At the time, Aevynn wasn't a very likable guy at all. Of course he got better with time.

Adam now comes...
Now appears Adam (Cheese Wiz, "god", and so on.) on the scene. He was also a friend of mine from school. He was a kind and trustworthy guy who had helped Origin quite a lot. This was also the time when the first RPG for Origin entered into the scene. Adam helped in creating a few of the best items in the shop. Sadly this was not transfered to the RPG we have at the moment. Also, thanks to Adam, we switched to IPB, the forum script we are using at the moment.

The Big Crisis...
About one month after Trunks became mod, he and I became entangled in an argument, partially about Aevynn becoming admin. When I informed him that Kiro (His "friend") blocked him (on MSN), he became very angry and deleted half the forums before I had the time to un-mod him. Of course, this is the point in time where I lost my trust for much of our staff. Just when I thought all of Origin that we had worked on for so long were gone (I never made backups back then, nor did we have the recycle bin features), our host informed us that he had moved our servers elsewhere, and had a copy of everything from three days ago. I thought, "Wow, how lucky is it, that our host backed up the whole server on exactly the right day?" From this point on, I won't be mentioning any more "memorable members" as too many are entering at this time. Fine fine, I'll just list them in chronological order: NeoSsjin, SSJ_Jimbo (Shad0w), SSJ4Bart (Roger Smith), and so on.

Death of the Host...
Just when we thought Origin won't be going through downtimes anymore (Remember, new server) our host was billed twice for the servers as he forgot to cancel the old server which we were moved from. This was when he ran into a money crisis, and decided to cancel the hosting. This was april of 2003, when the server was unplugged. Luckily, I had a backup before he could unplug it, so not all of the data were lost. But we, yet again, missed out on the active times of summer.

Rebirth of Origin...
Four to five months later, at the end of August, Origin found a new host, ready to re-start. We decided on a new name, Origin, and many other factors. This was also the entrance time of many of our active members today: Antony, Wolfwood, and so on. Despite Origin's bad start-up times (Wow, right when summer ends huh? -_-) Origin's activity boomed. We doubled in members and posts that we gained over the past year, in just one month. But unfortunately, Origin's webserver was not at its best when the boom occured. The mySQL system kept crashing (Wrong version number), and was not fixed for at least two weeks. This was immensely distracting, especially post wise, when you are literally blocked from posting until I come home and "fix" the tables. (MySQL Tables)

Our host FINALLY fixes the mySQL system...
After our host finally upgraded our buggy MySQL system, the server was one of the best we've ever been on. No downtimes, no MySQL crashes, nothing of that sort. Then a few months later, our host switched servers. This was the first downtime we had on this server that is unrelated to MySQL crashes. We thought all will be well on the new server once the move is done, but it wasn't. Many of you members might have noticed how Origin crashes once or twice every few weeks. But fortunately, this is nothing like the crashes we experienced on our very first server that we were on during late 2002 and early 2003.

**Passages done by Odd**

The Takeover Attempt...
After a rocky start to 2004, many members had become frustrated with Jinghao (the only root admin at the time) for different reasons, which cannot be disclosed with any specifics. As a result of the tension between Jingy and other staff members (including myself, Wolf, and others), one of the other Administrators, Garlic Junior, staged somewhat of a coup in February and manipulated Jinghao's account in order to demote him and keep him out of the ACP. Many of the other staff members became involved, once again including myself. The original purpose of the "takeover" was to show Jingy just how far we were willing to take things in order to improve Origin, with or without his help. After short negotiations (and Jingy's swift reclaiming of the board against our will, stongue.gif), an agreement was met and things went back to normal for quite a while.

The Pre-Summer Boom
In May of 2004, a few months after the short takeover, the arrival of several new members sparked an emormous posting spree that brought previously unseen numbers to the eyes of the staff. Members like Dragonrazor (Raven), Citrakite Zenaria, and Einhander were a part of this explosion. To bring this boom into perspective, in a one month span from May 5th to June 5th 2004, there was a record 15,450 posts. In the entire year of 2007 so far, the members of this forum have only posted 28,083 times. The sheer volume of posts during that period of time caused Origin to have memory/storage issues (if memory is not failing me), forcing Jingy to create almost daily back-ups for fear of a server mishap. It is still safe to say that it was the most active time in our history.
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The Summer while I was in China

Details in here

Conclusion...
In conclusion, even though Origin has been open ever since July of 2002, the total downtimes (Up to 8 months) really affected the growth of Origin. Now that the server is as stable as ever, Origin has the space it needs to expand. Maybe one day, Origin will reach the size of the larger and more active forums that dominate the web.
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May 25 2005, 01:45 PM (Post #31)
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Yeah...Especially what you thought of it. sbiggrin.gif
Lol, will the "recent server downtimes" be included, too? XD
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May 25 2005, 05:39 PM (Post #32)
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There's too much to include to reach 2005...heck, we were barely into 2003 when the first post was made, XD.

Anyway, once Grand types his update, I've already promised to update right along with him with my point of view.

Btw Ck....what do you mean? O_o
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May 25 2005, 06:11 PM (Post #33)
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QUOTE (Catastrophe @ May 25 2005, 10:43 AM)
Please hurry and update it. I want to read about the great 'Rebellion' against Grand stongue.gif
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Which one?

stongue.gif

You talking about the one where we kicked Grand off his own forum sbiggrin.gif that was fun.
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May 25 2005, 11:42 PM (Post #34)
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There's a news article about it, so I think I'll just locate it and link to it.
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May 26 2005, 02:19 AM (Post #35)
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you know everyone failed to mention how fair and even handed i was in handling situations, heck i kept kiro and trunks from going nuts for quite sometime.
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May 26 2005, 03:12 AM (Post #36)
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QUOTE (Kansei @ May 26 2005, 01:39 AM)
There's too much to include to reach 2005...heck, we were barely into 2003 when the first post was made, XD.
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Lol, that's why it's called history. sbiggrin.gif Just summarize it, then. Use shorter words. XD
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May 26 2005, 09:37 AM (Post #37)
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QUOTE (Garlic Junior @ May 26 2005, 06:11 AM)
QUOTE  (Catastrophe @ May 25 2005, 10:43 AM)
Please hurry and update it. I want to read about the great 'Rebellion' against Grand stongue.gif
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Which one?

stongue.gif

You talking about the one where we kicked Grand off his own forum sbiggrin.gif that was fun.
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That one, I did a bit of topic digging (as I do) and found a whole bunch of stuff about it. I found the topic where you were gaining people to 'fight' Grand stongue.gif .
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May 26 2005, 11:14 AM (Post #38)
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Hm...Did it include trying to get people to join their clan? XD
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May 26 2005, 06:24 PM (Post #39)
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QUOTE (Catastrophe @ May 26 2005, 09:37 AM)
QUOTE  (Garlic Junior @ May 26 2005, 06:11 AM)
QUOTE  (Catastrophe @ May 25 2005, 10:43 AM)
Please hurry and update it. I want to read about the great 'Rebellion' against Grand stongue.gif
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Which one?

stongue.gif

You talking about the one where we kicked Grand off his own forum sbiggrin.gif that was fun.
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That one, I did a bit of topic digging (as I do) and found a whole bunch of stuff about it. I found the topic where you were gaining people to 'fight' Grand stongue.gif .
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[oldman]

Ah the good old days

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May 26 2005, 11:53 PM (Post #40)
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You shouldn't be proud of breaking moral grounds, and mutual trust.

And even if you did try something, you coulda just talked to me directly instead of using certain people to mess up my account. And you could've done something that would've prevented me from getting back in.
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May 27 2005, 12:19 AM (Post #41)
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Jesus ... do you actually want to start that s*it again? In case your memory has blanked it out, the whole reason we took over the boards was to get your attention because talking to you rationally wasn't working. And we did get your attention. And you did listen. And we did come to a compromise. And it was all good. And we all look on it as a fond memory. A time when we came to realise who we were and what we wanted. A time when the line was drawn in the sand. Where we both grew. And you want to turn it back into an arguement?
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May 27 2005, 12:35 AM (Post #42)
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I'm just saying that I would've listened if you told me everything you had to say.
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May 27 2005, 04:22 AM (Post #43)
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Kansei, Jinghao said himself the orginal Origin was made mainly to be a temp guest book since his old one had gotten weid on him. We're a fluke of luck and some bad coding in a guest book. Would he have made Origin if his guest book hadn't crapped out then?
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May 27 2005, 05:43 PM (Post #44)
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There was a rebellion againist Grand? I wanna know about this..

o_O Like Iataru said, I was never active. But now I am, since Haven told me about the Zombie RPG. stongue.gif He knows about my weakness. I only have like 130 posts, but I'm trying my best.

O_O You had to fight tooth and nail for this forum, huh Grand-sama?
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May 27 2005, 07:45 PM (Post #45)
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o_o.....lol, rel.

Ck, if you look at everyhing like that, you'll end up shooting yourself in the head five years from now, stongue.gif. He made the forums because he thought it would be a good idea. Three years ago, forums were relatively new and just picking up all over the net. Ours worked out because we had several members who were able to work together.

I don't see any fluke. >_>
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